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Learning About Fog Reflection – Paintless Dent Repair/Removal PDR


Learning About Reflections – Paintless Dent Repair/Removal PDR

This article was written by Vince from Dents No More in Orange County, California. He’s a PDR tech who has been performing professional PDR since 1994. A “fog” reflection specialist who explains the use of his reflection.

Written By Vince from DentsNoMore.com

FOG 101

When using a fog board to repair a dent, using the paintless dent removal technique, board placement and lighting are critical. The whole purpose of using a fog board (reflection board) is to see the damage better. The board itself is usually yellow or white. The line is painted on with a flat black can of spray paint. One single line down the middle with the over spray acting as the fog. The over spray is crucial mainly because that is the fog! Not too much and not too little. The purpose of the fog is to see depth of the dent and to highlight the natural orange peel of the panel. It also helps you see the tip of your tool better, which allows better-controlled pushes. When outside, most people that use fog boards will try to have the sun behind them to light up the fog board. When inside lighted fog boards come in handy.

With a single line reflection board there are two pictures you can see inside the dent. Think: Negative and positive.

What happens is if you use the side closest to the skin of the car the dent is shaded down the middle on one side of the dent. If you shift your head and look at the reflection of the dent on the topside of the board the opposite side of the dent will be shaded. The whole purpose of this is to find the middle of the dent. Where the black and yellow meet is where the center of the dent is. Now you can start pushing. For years many skilled body men use to start on the outside of the dent and shrink the metal in towards the middle. This is not true with PDR. With our theory, by making precise pushes in the center circling out, the metal regains its strength. Layer by layer, push by push. In a crease type dent a zipper technique is used. Starting at one end and zig zagging through the dent. Once again, layer by layer. It is crucial to remember each push made effects the previous and the next push. As the dent is being removed layer by layer, the board must be moved farther and farther away. When starting out the board will be about one foot away from the dent. When finishing the dent, the board can be as much at four feet away from the dent.

PDR Dent Repair Training – Large Paintless Dent Removal


Wrote by: Myke Toledo – Dent Time San Diego – Paintless Dent Repair/Removal PDR Training

Being a well rounded paintless dent repair / removal PDR tech means you can adapt. From deep door dings to large and stretched dents, you should be able to handle about 90% of the dents come your way or more important, you take on.

Performing large and complex dent repairs do pay off. Some PDR techs think there is no money doing these type of repairs. We would like to disagree. If your time is valuable and you do above average work, you can very well indeed make a great living doing these type of PDR repairs. Come to think of it, most people are not as concerned with small door dings as they are with big dents like in the diagram.

Advanced PDR training is a good option to consider if you plan to be doing PDR for a awhile. Even in some cases a dent is not going to come out 100%, you can still make a customer very satisfied based on what you had to work with in the first place. Before we begin a repair, Dents like these we are always clear to the customer they will most likely notice a slight wave or indentation near the body line. It is almost certain with clear and upfront communication, your customer will be happy.

Although there was much more involved with this dent repair than what was shown in the diagram.This diagrams gives a sneak peak of the basic PDR Line Board Manual that is now out on sale at AutoLecture.com.

Video Dent/Crease Repair – Paintless Dent Removal Training (PDR)

Denttime.com of San Diego paintless dent repair, removes a crease and demonstrates precise tool tip control. You can also visit their blog.


Removing creases can be pretty tricky for the most part. Imagine taking a piece of paper, folding it and then trying to iron the line out.

Performing paintless dent repair with creases take precise tool tip control. We use a special and unique board called the “Lines.” This line board basically is point of reference. It tells us where to push, if the metal is going outward or inward. As you watch the video, be aware the tool is being wedged between the impact beam and the skin of the panel. A very thin tool as you see in the video (whale tail) is used for applying pressure with one side of the blade. Perfect pushes blend the dent into the orange peel. Depending on how deep a crease is, the results vary between 90-100% removal.

If you are planning to have PDR done in the near future and you are not in San Diego, please note, repairs vary depending on the individual experience of your PDR technician. Find a local PDr tech in your area and visit reconexpress.com for a PDR tech near you.

Advanced Paintless Dent Removal PDR Training

Although this diagram demonstrates a tactical way to remove a big dent with paintless dent repair, it is highly recommended to get professional one-on-one PDR training to gain the fullest benefits.

This PDR dent was attacked using a glue pulling method and finished off with lots of crown work and precision pushing with steel rods. We would like to stress, there were many steps between the photos to get this dent completely out. A big dent like this requires high experience and patience to get satisfactory results. We will in the future post a video of how much of a monster and challenging paintless dent repair this was.

Knowing how to remove big dents is all about knowing how to finish. If you can’t finish a small pitted ding, you won’t be able to finish a big dent. Big dents have many elements that are involved in a repair such as; crowns, trapped pressure, knocking down, tool selection, where to start and how to finish.

If you have questions about advanced paintless dent removal/repair pdr training, please either visit denttime.com or post a comment and we’ll be glad to give some feed back.

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What’s the difference between Ding vs. Dent?



When it comes to paintless dent removal/repair (PDR), there are ways to categorize types of dents. So, what’s the difference? Simple.

“Door Ding”

A ding or more commonly known as a “door ding” is considered no bigger than the size of a quarter. Although these types of dings are considered common repairs made by Dent Time of San Diego and most other PDR companies around the country. Door dings can also range in price depending on how sharp, location and access. The average time to repair a typical door ding ranges between 15 minutes to an hour. Multiple dings on multiple panels vary between 1-2 hours.

“Dents”

A dent is considered the size of a silver dollar or bigger. In general, a dent is sharper, bigger and require more time to remove. Depending where it is located on the panel, the PDR technician must determine access points for leverage as well. Again, prices vary depending on depth, location, and access. The average repair time for removing a common dent about the size of a grapefruit is between 1-2 hours. Multiple dents vary between 1-4 hours.

“Creases”

A crease is considered a dent or ding that has a line shape indentation in the metal panel. This type of crease can vary in width, length and depth. A crease is also considered one of the most difficult repairs to achieve for most common PDR companies. A good reason for this would be to say that it is like folding a piece of paper and then trying to iron the line out. If not performed correctly, you will still be left with a smaller or thinner line. With this in mind, it is strongly considered to choose an experienced PDR company who specializes in creases and complex dents like ourselves. Average repair time for a single crease varies between 30 minutes to 2 hours.


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